they would cut out symbols and would give them to the family members of those that perished that day. and, i cut out an article and, you know, there's, there is something here that actually shows different symbols. martha: yeah. >> and, again, if, if we hide it, if we don't acknowledge what this is there for, then, basically the person that died that day or the person that carved it out, we're saying that their feelings or their emotions don't mean anything. and to me, i think that's, that's not right. martha: they asked you to do something, to write something, to add a plaque to this. what did they want it to say? >> they want ad plaque basically acknowledging all the atheists that perished that day as well. well, besides the atheists there were muslims. there were jews, there were christians. there were buddhists, every different type of religion. like i said said was affected. to single out just one group i think is wrong. it is not right.